Death Penalty For Child Molestors - Page 3

Fluffy · 01-29-2005, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by lostsomewhere

Do you honestly think that you would think the same way if one of your innocent children (if you had any/when you do have) were severly raped and murdered? (Even though i think it would be better to be murdered after enduring a horrible rape...but i'm not talking about myself on this thread) Would you want your child's murderer to possibly get out on good behavior and able to hurt other children?

Honestly, I see where you're coming from (except for the rape thing you said, which angers me a lot but I'm trying not to drag personal stuff into this thread).

I have people in my life that have had loved ones murdered in horrible ways. I think they would have been a lot more satisfied had the person who commited these terrible crimes actually stayed in jail longer than a few years than they would have been with the death penalty.

It makes sense to me to want the person who caused you so much pain to suffer. I would tend to be in favor of selectively applying the death penalty, but only if we lived in a perfect world where no innocent people are ever wrongly convicted of a crime. Since that will never happen, I have a tough time supporting the death penalty, though the emotional part of me would happily pull the trigger in some cases.

Goldenfae · 01-30-2005, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Fat Man

To my mind, "how would you feel if..." is not a valid basis to decide public policy. Obviously, if someone hurt or killed one of my loved ones, I'd want to kill them with my bare hands, slowly. But we shouldn't base our justice system on the emotional desire for revenge.

Steve the Sweet Fat Man

That's the BEST response I've heard that argument ever! It reminds me of the Bush Dukakis (sp) debate in which he didn't respond so well...he should have had you as a speach writer!

**Steve SFM** · 01-30-2005, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Goldenfae

That's the BEST response I've heard that argument ever! It reminds me of the Bush Dukakis (sp) debate in which he didn't respond so well...he should have had you as a speach writer!

Hah! Thanks. But that might not have worked out so well, because I would have had him responding to the whole Willie Horton thing with the phrase, "racist bullshit".

But yeah, it was interesting how his response to that question was seen as a major faux pas. In a sense, he DID respond to it correctly, by saying that his personal feelings should not be a basis for public policy. He was just way too dry and clinical.

To my mind, though, the real outrage was that the question was even asked. Bernie Shaw should have been ashamed of himself for falling into that trap of seeing the death penalty in such an emotional light.

Steve the Sweet Fat Man

bigNerd · 02-01-2005, 10:23 AM

I have a question regarding the original topic. Can anybody tell me why the word "sodomy" is used instead of molestation or rape or sexual abuse/assault? Does intercourse fall under the meaning of "sodomy"? Just wondering because it almost sounds like these people are more concerned with molesters who target boys than those who target girls and I hope that's not the case b/c that would bother me.

sherlock · 02-02-2005, 04:59 PM

ive been on the inside BELIEVE ME THE DEATH PENALTY IS THE EASIEST WAY OUT FOR THAT SLIME TIME AND A LOT OF IT IS WHER THEY GET PAID BACK SORRY FOR THE CAPS THIS TOPIC DRIVES MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE !!!!

blank-ette · 02-04-2005, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Spacegrrrl

1. I was molested as a child and I STILL wouldn't want the death penalty for pedophiles since it solves NOTHING.

that is awful. i am trully sorry you had to suffer through that.

however i must disagree. the death penalty for pedophiles does solve something..... a dead pedophile cannot hurt anymore children.

sexual abuse is something that scars many people for many years and can cause serious damage. i had an ex-aunt who was abused as a child, later became schizsophrenic (sp?) and tried commiting suicide multiple times when all of these bad things she had repressed for years came to the surface.
i'm still iffy on the death penalty, but for evil people that hurt children, yeah i really don't see a need for them to exist on this planet, and i certainly don't want my tax payer dollars to feed those motherfuckers in jail for the rest of their lives.
I hear so many cases of REPEAT sexual offenders whether it was a crime against a child or an adult and i makes me sick. why are these people on the street?
Is it mandatory for sex offenders and pedophiles to go through some kind of rehab program? (the clockwork orange just came to mind)
cause if we can't kill 'em we should at least try to cure 'em.
my 2 cents

**Steve SFM** · 02-04-2005, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by blank-ette

however i must disagree. the death penalty for pedophiles does solve something..... a dead pedophile cannot hurt anymore children.

Neither can a pedophile serving life without parole.

And remember, it does cost more to keep someone alive for the rest of their life than it does to put them through the execution process.

Steve the Sweet Fat Man

blank-ette · 02-04-2005, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Fat Man

Neither can a pedophile serving life without parole.

And remember, it does cost more to keep someone alive for the rest of their life than it does to put them through the execution process.

Steve the Sweet Fat Man

sorry to sound cruel, but a bullet is cheaper and just as quick an an injection.
just a thought. (i know i will get flamed for that one. )

i am for life without parole too, though. and i think you have a lot of valid points. I can tell you feel very strongly in your beliefs and i appreciate your well-thought out responses. good for you for sticking up for your beliefs.
it is just not everyone will think the same thing. people have been using the death penalty for thousands upon thousands of years, i don't see us doing away with it completely any time soon.

**Steve SFM** · 02-04-2005, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by blank-ette

it is just not everyone will think the same thing. people have been using the death penalty for thousands upon thousands of years, i don't see us doing away with it completely any time soon.

The thing is, though, that virtually all countries in the world that aren't dictatorships have abolished the death penalty. So the trend is actually against it worldwide. We're behind in that regard.

And thanks for your nice words.

Steve the Sweet Fat Man

FreedomByDeath · 03-19-2005, 03:28 AM

the death penalty for child molester's music to my ears

im from texas my state is putting in an express lane for the death penalty

Cheri · 03-19-2005, 02:52 PM

Um maybe you should explain why you feel that way? I know why but they don't know you.

**Steve SFM** · 03-19-2005, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ~*Dancing~Spirit*~

Um maybe you should explain why you feel that way?

Better yet, this person might want to try to respond to the arguments against the death penalty that have been made in this thread.

Indeed, this person's post seemed less like an attempt to join the debate than it did to be trolling. I'd be happy to be proven wrong about that, though.

Steve the Sweet Fat Man

Cheri · 03-19-2005, 06:19 PM

Rest assured he is not a troll, just young. His abuser is in jail.

cr1me_scene · 04-25-2005, 02:55 AM

The first thing that comes to mind........It's about friggin time already......I wish we could get a state to state law on this, I'm all for it, hmmm and my ex would be the first on my list.....wonder if they'd let me do it?

Perhaps if they made it into a recliner, they wouldn't consider it cruel or inhumane......giggles

Liveitloud · 04-25-2005, 06:27 AM

I put child molestation right at the top of my list. Any grown up that takes a child like that should never see daylight again. Life without parole suits that purpose in my opinion. I am not for State sanctioned murder.