74th Academy Awards - your opinions

Hyper · 03-25-2002, 06:24 AM

I think there were some really big surprises at this years Academy Awards!

I am very happy for Halle Berry for her award as best Actress in Monsters Ball. Because this movie is from a Swiss director

, And I really liked her in this movie!

A big surprise in my eyes is the winner for best foreign film. Not Amelie! That is a really big surprise.

And Best Actor: Denzel Washington. Well, I never seen Training Day, but I was so sure, that Russell Crowe will win this award.

Only 2 awards for Moulin Rouge (yay

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Only 4 awards for Lord of the Rings (

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And I am very happy for the winner in the category: Best Short Film Animated: For the Birds. I loved this movie. It is so funny! yay

Best Music/Score: LOTR. Also a big surprise. Not Moulin Rouge......

HappyPhantom · 03-25-2002, 08:14 AM

I was glad to see Jennifer Connelly win Best Supporting Actress - its about time she got recognized.

Halle Berry's acceptance speech started out emotional & touching then....it dragged and became irritating...I am however glad she won.

As for Denzel Washington....I was disappointed. I feel Russell Crowe got "black balled" (no pun intended). It appears as if they punished Crowe for his little outburst, or they simply gave that award to Denzel to get him to refrain from bickering and whining like a bitch with a skinned knee and shit about not winning - for he has done nothing but since Kevin Spacey beat him last year at the Oscars. I did not see Denzel's film for which he was nominated for and I dont plan to.

If there was ever an award for "Most Irritable Ass Clown with a Cry Baby Complex" then yes I think Denzel would qualify for that one...but best actor....please!

Amelie was the best foreign film...I saw No Man's Land - it was a strong film...but Amelie was original.

Best Adapted Screenplay should have went to Ghost World...Best Original Screenplay should have went to Royal Tenenbaums.

Best Supporting actor was a surprise...I was hoping Ian McKellan would win but Jim Broadbent nabbed it...and he delivered quite an exceptional performance in Iris - so it didnt leave a bad taste in my mouth that he won.

from DigitalBits:

"the oscars dragged heavier than Divine in a John Waters flick" lmao!

isnt that the fucking truth!?!?!

Caroline · 03-25-2002, 08:24 AM

Happy:

-Halle Berry and Denzel Washington... Though, I was sure Russell Crowe would have won for Best Actor (and I, for one, think he did a fabulous job in A Beautiful Mind).

-Jennifer Connelly

-Howard Shore for Best Score

-Randy Newman

Deceptions:

-IAN MCKELLEN!! I'm still pissed about this one...

-Amélie should have won foreign movie!

-Only 4 for LOTR (I didn't expect it to do that well though...)

-A beautiful mind for Best picture... I loved the movie but I don't think it's a movie that people will remember in 10 years... unlike LOTR or Moulin Rouge.

Most Ugly Dress:

-Gwyneth

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Caroline

Doughnut Hole · 03-25-2002, 08:58 AM

Boring, boring, boring. Talk, talk, talk. Blah, Blah, Blah.

mike

**maureenerrific** · 03-25-2002, 09:41 AM

i HATED everything about them.

... and not because people i thought should win didn't.

i'll explain more later.

Myra's Girls · 03-25-2002, 11:55 AM

Well, as usual I was disappointed I stayed up late to watch the end. It just really isn't that exciting. I was practically falling asleep in my chair!

There's a thread in OIT about Halle and lots of people saying the Oscars are all politics. I tend to agree last nights Oscars were at least a little politics.

I'm not unhappy at the results (nor am I particularly pleased) but I was seriously wondering what all the focus on race was about. Maybe I'm ignorant to the struggles of black actors in Hollywood, but honestly, I seriously don't really even notice their race. I don't think, oh, Denzel is my favorite black actor, I don't base it on race at all! I didn't know before last night that no African-American woman had won Best Actress, but again, I guess that's because I'm so NOT focused on race. I mean, what, does Whoopi Goldberg's Best Supporting Actress Oscar mean NOTHING just because she was Best Supporting Actress? I guess there's just an aspect I'm not seeing here.

Chrysta

jcldragon · 03-25-2002, 01:11 PM

I rather enjoyed watching it this year, but I've not seen it in a long time.

I'm satisfied that LOTR got 4 Oscars, and it was good to see Ron Howard finally getting due recognition. But the best part was seeing Halle Berry getting the Best Actress award. It was about time that a black woman finally got this Oscar.

~does happy dance~

Aion · 03-25-2002, 03:24 PM

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Originally posted by HappyPhantom
As for Denzel Washington....I was disappointed. I feel Russell Crowe got "black balled" (no pun intended). It appears as if they punished Crowe for his little outburst, or they simply gave that award to Denzel to get him to refrain from bickering and whining like a bitch with a skinned knee and shit about not winning - for he has done nothing but since Kevin Spacey beat him last year at the Oscars. I did not see Denzel's film for which he was nominated for and I dont plan to.

If there was ever an award for "Most Irritable Ass Clown with a Cry Baby Complex" then yes I think Denzel would qualify for that one...but best actor....please!

Exactly, the only reason the academy gave him the award is because everyone was bitching about the lack of Black Oscar winners and the lack of diversity.

though Crowe is a jerk, he did give the better performance and Washington lucked out

KV · 03-25-2002, 03:25 PM

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Originally posted by Myra's Girls
There's a thread in OIT about Halle and lots of people saying the Oscars are all politics. I tend to agree last nights Oscars were at least a little politics.

The bottom line for me is this, both Denzel and Halle deserved that award whether they were white, red, pink green or brown. I mean we can all debate until we are blue in the face about how they won or why they won or if it was a race thing or politics or whatever....but last night was important for African Americans and for America for one reason....the freedom door has been pushed open a little bit further for not only blacks, but all ethnicities in not only film, but in realizing their potential.

I mean it is in sports and entertainment that young people pool their attention these days and whether or not we think athletes and celebrities should be role models....they are....and this just gives a lot of our minority youth more of a beacon in seeing their dreams realized....it's a winning situation no matter how you look at it.

And hello? Is Sydney Poitier not the most elegant and eloquent man on the earth? That speech was amazing! And I was glad to see Arthur Hiller recognized, but ummmm standing ovation anyone? I tell ya...sometimes Hollywood really depresses and infuriates me. His speech was so humble and lovely!

But they had to kill it with a focus on Julia's fat fake mug! Argh! What was her deal anyway? Is she an attention whore or what? She annoys me to no end! And can she use the line "I got to kiss Sydney Poitier" one more time? She practically says that at every award show that she and Sydney attend. hurl city.

I was also REALLY proud of Sir Ian McKellan for not hiding his sexuality. Another wonderful step...kudos to him! I was stunned that neither he nor Kingsley won....what was that all about??

Also...Amelie did not get ONE award? And Memento was looked over for best editing???? Are they mad? Did anyone in the academy even see the movie? That stunned me I think more than anything!

All the love
XOXOXO
Rachel

PS - And we ALL know Peter Jackson is gonna get best director in 2004 after Return of The King is released. That is a given! I mean we still have two more LOTRs that are going to prove to be even better than FOTR I guarantee!

PPS - Weren't Owen Wilson and Ben Stiller hilarious in that skit? I mean we did not learn that much about costume design, but it was nice comic relief!

**Wout** · 03-25-2002, 03:30 PM

I do believe this years oscars were very politically correct. Makes me wonder what it would´ve been like if it hadn´t been for the 11 september disaster. just a thought.

Myra's Girls · 03-25-2002, 03:33 PM

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Originally posted by KundaVega

The bottom line for me is this, both Denzel and Halle deserved that award whether they were white, red, pink green or brown. I mean we can all debate until we are blue in the face about how they won or why they won or if it was a race thing or politics or whatever....but last night was important for African Americans and for America for one reason....the freedom door has been pushed open a little bit further for not only blacks, but all ethnicities in not only film, but in realizing their potential.

PS - And we ALL know Peter Jackson is gonna get best director in 2004 after Return of The King is released. That is a given! I mean we still have two more LOTRs that are going to prove to be even better than FOTR I guarantee!

I totally agree on both counts!

The only reason I say I thought it was political was because of all the comments made about it (not because of who won or didn't win)! Race should not even be a factor.

And you know LOTR is going to take home more Oscars (in bigger categories) in the next 2 years!

Chrysta

purplemystic · 03-25-2002, 04:07 PM

I haven't seen any of the movies so I can't really say whether they're political or not.

In Halle Berry's case I have heard many people say she really did give a phenomenal performance. Plus her two main competitors (Judi Dench and Sissy Spacek) are both seasoned, older actors who each have an Oscar apiece.
Halle was SO surprised and happy that she won. As soon as she got up there I was happy that she won, because it meant so much to her. But I will have to see the movie to be sure.

And at least it wasn't Renee Zellweger.

In Denzel it was probably more politics. I mean, who has even seen his movie or heard about it? But Denzel is a good actor and if they were going to go with a black actor there's no way in hell they were going to give an Oscar to Will Smith, and they wouldn't give a second one to a guy with a crappy personality (Russell), no matter how good his performance was. I think in both of these cases we are dealing with a lack of options.

Kate didn't win, and that bummed me out cuz I love her

Ethan didn't win, but a lot of times he's off, as much as I love him. I thought it was gracious of Denzel to thank him in his speech.

A Beautiful Mind grabbed everything else up. I don't know about that. I think it probably was a sentimental favorite and they didn't want to give awards to other stuff. I mean, it's like with Forrest Gump, it's a crowd pleaser, but anything difficult stumps them . . .

Finney · 03-25-2002, 04:54 PM

This years oscars... I was bored. Probably because there was no anticipation of waiting for bjork to sing and the whole swan dress thing...heehe

Very happy that Denzel won. He was such a scary motha fucka in Training Day (good movie to rent imo).
And that russel lost..ehehahahhahahaahahha i was laughing my ass off.

hmmm...I really like Jennifer connelly, but not for this movie.

I wanted Kate to win as well (she looked amazing!!!)

Glad Halle won.

And really mad about best director/best film...Beautiful Mind...nothing special. Directing?...really can someone explain what was so great about it.

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Yes whoever mentioned julia roberts

When she announced Denzel as the winner "My life is so good" ..blah blah..hugged him forever...god she is annoying.

blah blah...boring is right.

PinkMoon · 03-25-2002, 05:10 PM

IMHO...

- I saw Training Day. Neither Denzel's nor Ethan's performances were Oscar-worthy.

- The Oscars are inherently political. Always have been, always will be.

- I think it's easy to say that Denzel's award was in reply to the backlash the Academy's been getting for it's lack of awards given to African-Americans.

- I think the real reason he got the award is b/c the Academy voters felt like schmucks for dicking him over for his two far superior roles in Malcom X & The Hurricane and were trying to make amends.
(For those of you playing along at home Al Pacino beat him out in '92 for his role in Scent of A Woman, and Kevin Spacey took top honors in '99 for American Beauty)

- Peter Jackson has two more chances to win with each of the next two films bound to be bigger & better than the first (anyone else get the feeling this was the pinnacle of Opie's career?)

- I really didn't like Halle Berry's dress. I'm sorry. Sue me. She normally is the highlight of my sartorial review, but the top of her dress was just a little too "Sports Illustrated swimsuit Edition" for me.

glitterspitter · 03-25-2002, 05:28 PM

my gf and i got into an argumenent about the race thing as well. all i have to say is OF COURSE it's important for a black woman to win for the first time EVER in a leading role!!!! i don't understand how that point is even arguable. what if there was no best actress award and women NEVER won for best actor (which would undoubtedly be the case for quite a long time i imagine)? of course there can't and shouldn't be a "best black actress award," and last night halle berry made history in a category that has been ALL WHITE. good for her damnit! i have heard her performance is great. i'm gonna go see the movie asap.

i agree with PinkMoon. i think denzel was almost more cheated for winning this award for this movie than not. i mean, i definitely think he deserved an oscar in his career, but for training day? bah. well, i'm glad he won anyway cause i hate russel crowe with a fiery passion. and denzel's speech was great.

the best picture portion was so anti-climactic. with all the great films this year... i'll say it again: fuck the academy.

anyway, i was all geared up for amelie to win. i DIDN'T want it to win for two reasons: 1) i apparently am the only person who thought it fell short of being the second coming, and 2) we have had it at my theatre (a one-screen art house, no escaping) for SIX MONTHS and i have been driven to HATE it. now, if it had won we would have it for who knows how much longer, so when it lost i was relieved. then i was indignant. i mean, the bosnian film? please. maybe if "our lady of the assasins" was contending... oh well *kisses amelie goodbye, kicks her butt on the way out the door*

this year blew. thank god for the politics or it would have been hell of boring.

and i agree about gwenyth. she usually always looks so gorge, what happened? nicaole kidman usually bores me but she was stunning. hmm.