04-19-2004, 01:21 PM | #1 | | mani@c Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 12,213 | my rants of the AM - xtina, rebecca stamos, the swan lets just combine all fo my morning bitching into one nonlinear thread poor rebecca stamos. now i am a firm believer that when you agree to be famous you also agree to take on the fact that your going to have photographers and media up your ass. BUT did you see the tape of this asshole screaming at her? for those of you who didnt shes standing at an elevator and a bunch of people are snapping off pictures and this one ass is apparently way pissed that she isnt posing for pictures the way he would like. so he starts screaming how hes going to follow her everywhere, be outside her house every day and make her life hell ect she was AMAZING during all of this just standing there letting it roll. then the asshole says " no wonder your husband left you bitch" or something to that effect. she was in a fucking dark corridor using what looked to be like a service elevator what the hell did he want her to do ? its not a red carpet, she was allowing peopel to take pictures and her handlers moved to let them snap away. another example of the fact that you can take the millions and fame and shove them. no amt of money is worth that bullshit. xtina - she was on tv today with short blonde air possibly a wig who knows. she looked fab! and they said in her tour she is going to sing songs from the 30's and 40's. which has the potential to be incredible. though i am not a fan i totally admit she has an amazing voice but i think its wasted on a lot of the crap she sings. but when she speaks in interviews she puts on this god awful janet like baby voice. i think ANYONE who puts on that baby voice should be smacked every time they do it. baby voice + that super proper diction = horid the swan - what a god awful show. these women that they call the "ugly ducklings" are so far from it. i understand that they call them that because of the theme of the show with the swan and all, but its still wrong on so many levels. these women arent like the friggin elephant man. sure some of them look better with a little boob lift or a tummy tuck but who wouldnt? i know a little work here and there and i would be able to see improvements, as would every single human being on the face of this planet. dont get me wrong i am totally pro plastic surgury, or to be more specific i am for people doing what will make THEM feel better and more confident. but i think a lot of these women could get that from a kick ass day at a good spa where they give you a full make over. teach them how to put on make up how they like it, give them a great hair cut and color. show them some great clothes and what will make their bodies look the best. giving them some lyposuction isnt going to last. giving them some fat injected here or there isnt going to last. and how many of these women are going to be able to afford the constant maintence that goes along with these surguries? with their teeth alone di vinci vaniers alone cost what most people make in a month. all of these people get several of these. and they need to be constantly maintained and replaced. and the mother of several kids working two jobs is going to be able to afford this how exactly?? thats my rants for now, i am not promising there wont be more later its been a stressfull buisness morning. | | | 04-19-2004, 02:03 PM | #2 | | Posting Bot Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 8,135 | Quote: | said in her tour she is going to sing songs from the 30's and 40's. | *has tickets for May 18 and is really excited to hear that* | | | 04-19-2004, 02:43 PM | #3 | | gimme gimme some truth Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 50,486 | The Swan is pure fucking evil. There was a cool trashing of it in Entertaiment Weekly (they gave it an F, which they save for things they truly despise) with a genius headline: "Self-Hate Crime". And as for the jerk with the camera, Rebecca should have gone all Alec Baldwin on his ass. Steve the Sweet Fat Man __________________ The 00s gave us great music. Too bad about everything else. -somebody at Rolling Stone | | | 04-19-2004, 02:48 PM | #4 | | one in the oven Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 6,637 | @#&(! The Swan... I.. I really hate reality TV, all of it, but this show is probably one of my 'most hated'. Just what the world needs: more endorsements for plastic surgery. What about self-acceptance? What about inner beauty? What about being a Pheonix instead of a lemming? | | | 04-19-2004, 05:06 PM | #5 | | mani@c Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 12,213 | the swan makes me furious. they do plastic surgury which they will not be able to afford to keep up, then they tell them pretty much how ugly they were prior, and then send them home for all of the injections and what nots to fade away so they go back to being "ugly ducklings" again. some plastic surgury i can understand, like the lady who had a bunch of kids in a row and ended up with loose skin on her stomach. she used to belly dance and feels like shit now because shes floppy in the middle. i can see a tummy tuck. how fab will she feel all firmed up again in that belly dancing outfit? $200k of other surgury ? no! there was no reason for it AT ALL. xtina - i think with her incredible voice singing songs from the 30's and 40's will be just incredible. i hope they do some sort of tv special so i get to see. if not your totally obligated to come back and give a full report ok ?  | | | 04-19-2004, 05:18 PM | #6 | | @ddict Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 633 | I am actually happy to see Xtina seeing singing stuff from Billie Holiday (I think I saw the same interview). When she said "I'm going to sing some classics," my first thought was "Oh no! not a Tiffany and Debbie Gibson Review." Glad to see I was wrong on that one I refuse to watch the Swan, I feel so sorry for those poor women who think they are somehow ugly, and want to smack the shit out of their men that tell them they are. | | | 04-19-2004, 05:26 PM | #7 | | ""weltschmerz"" Join Date: Feb 2000 Posts: 27,008 | Quote: | Originally Posted by forever_newbie and want to smack the shit out of their men that tell them they are. | looks may not (certainly) be everything but I find it revolting that somebody would call their SO ugly. | | | 04-19-2004, 05:35 PM | #8 | | silently, i wish to sail into your port Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,201 | Quote: | Originally Posted by forever_newbie I refuse to watch the Swan, I feel so sorry for those poor women who think they are somehow ugly, and want to smack the shit out of their men that tell them they are. | That's what bugs me most about the show. This one woman, while explaining why she wanted the plastic surgery, said something like: "When I come back home, my husband will see how good I look and realize that he never should've treated me badly." Um...okay, there. So, you think it was acceptable for him to treat you like shit because you were "ugly?!" | | | 04-19-2004, 06:07 PM | #9 | | Posting Bot Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 8,135 | Quote: | Originally Posted by miao0726 xtina - i think with her incredible voice singing songs from the 30's and 40's will be just incredible. i hope they do some sort of tv special so i get to see. if not your totally obligated to come back and give a full report ok ?  | Got it. She mentioned recently that her next album is supposed to be about the voice, then started talking about Billie, Ella, etc. Now the tour news...I'm excited to see where this leads. | | | 04-19-2004, 06:24 PM | #10 | | run Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 24,056 | Quote: | Originally Posted by miao0726 lets dont get me wrong i am totally pro plastic surgury, or to be more specific i am for people doing what will make THEM feel better and more confident. but i think a lot of these women could get that from a kick ass day at a good spa where they give you a full make over. . | Well, I'm pretty much anti-plastic surgery unless you're deformed or work in a field that demands you photopgraph a particular way - I think it's a horribly masochistic way to behave - but anyway, I agree totally with the point you are making here. I saw an article in a magazine the other day about a similiar show where they perform plastic surgery on both men and women, and it showed the 'before' and 'after' shots. In every single case, the 'before' shot showed the person in shapeless, unfashionable clothing in unflattering colours that drained their complexion, bad make-up or no make-up, out-of-condition or badly-cut hair and with everyone absolutely unsmiling. The lighting used for the photos was cold and harsh and designed to make anyone look their absolute worst. By contrast, the 'after' shots showed everyone with new, flattering outfits in colours that enhanced their skin tone. They all had nice new haircuts that actually flattered the shape of their faces. The photos were in marked contrast to the previous ones - artfully posed and lit with soft, warm light. They were all testifying to how the surgery had turned their appearance around, and changed their lives, blah blah, but really anyone could see the major difference was in how they presented themselves and in their confidence levels. All any of them needed to look like a 'new person' or younger, or whatever it was they wanted to be, was better choice of clothes, a decent haircut and to stand up straight and SMILE. | | | 04-19-2004, 06:32 PM | #11 | | run Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 24,056 | Quote: | Originally Posted by Bluebell That's what bugs me most about the show. This one woman, while explaining why she wanted the plastic surgery, said something like: "When I come back home, my husband will see how good I look and realize that he never should've treated me badly." Um...okay, there. So, you think it was acceptable for him to treat you like shit because you were "ugly?!" | I swear to god, women are their own worst enemies sometimes. You know, one of the more disturbing things I heard last year was a woman say to a group of other women and be met with total agreement (about a girl who had had a string of abusive boyfriends), "It's so strange she always gets treated like that - she's so PRETTY. I can't understand why she attracts men like that." That mindset is way too prevalent in our society even among educated women - the idea that women 'deserve' things, positive or negative, based on their looks - whether it be a nice treatment, a rich husband, or a rape or a beating. | | | 04-19-2004, 06:49 PM | #12 | | Gold lion is gonna tell me whr da lite Join Date: Feb 2000 Posts: 41,404 | just want to say that rebecca romeijn (fuck the stamos) is fabolous  | | | 04-19-2004, 07:15 PM | #13 | | mani@c Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 12,213 | Quote: | Originally Posted by neonchaos just want to say that rebecca romeijn (fuck the stamos) is fabolous  | the way i spell you dont want me to even TRY to spell her maiden name ! trust me on that one | | | 04-19-2004, 07:37 PM | #14 | | ""weltschmerz"" Join Date: Feb 2000 Posts: 27,008 | Quote: | Originally Posted by rinkydink I saw an article in a magazine the other day about a similiar show where they perform plastic surgery on both men and women, and it showed the 'before' and 'after' shots. In every single case, the 'before' shot showed the person in shapeless, unfashionable clothing in unflattering colours that drained their complexion, bad make-up or no make-up, out-of-condition or badly-cut hair and with everyone absolutely unsmiling. The lighting used for the photos was cold and harsh and designed to make anyone look their absolute worst. By contrast, the 'after' shots showed everyone with new, flattering outfits in colours that enhanced their skin tone. They all had nice new haircuts that actually flattered the shape of their faces. The photos were in marked contrast to the previous ones - artfully posed and lit with soft, warm light. They were all testifying to how the surgery had turned their appearance around, and changed their lives, blah blah, but really anyone could see the major difference was in how they presented themselves and in their confidence levels. All any of them needed to look like a 'new person' or younger, or whatever it was they wanted to be, was better choice of clothes, a decent haircut and to stand up straight and SMILE. | exactly. | | | 04-19-2004, 09:10 PM | #15 | | ai, que horror, viu! Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 8,217 | Quote: | Originally Posted by Bogdi exactly. | ya. | | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode | Posting Rules | You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:26 PM. |