A blackmail on 911 WTC bombing

<b>I have been a privacy advocate and ACLU member for years. I have helped write the law (or correct the errors in distinguishing id theft from fraud on the internet) on "identity theft".
When the issue of the safety of US citizens over certain guaranteed freedoms is in debate, sorry I go with the latter. What good are these freedoms if the continual possibility of terrorism consistantly lingers in our everyday life? What kind of freedom is that?
Citizens living in fear is not freedom.

[fuzzybear4u]

if your not doin anything illegal what is there to worry about? But I do like my privacy.Problem as I see it is the law abusing it for other purposes other then terrorism,it ill slip into the drug scene saying drugs are a terrorist attack on the u.s.

[ShadowWolf]

it was bad legislation...

there are more than enough laws on the books to handle all this nonsense without having to create more...

it was a knee-jerk reaction by opportunistic politicians taking advantage of a citizenry that is bordering on panic...

i guarantee that the government is going to abuse this law... they will be working overtime trying to create new definitions of terror and terrorists and terrorism so they can use this law to create a more invasive presence in our society and all the while telling us that now we will be "safer"...

the law they just passed was nothing but bullshit...

have a nice day....

[fuzzybear4u]

I said that to

Originally posted by fuzzybear4u
if your not doin anything illegal what is there to worry about? But I do like my privacy.Problem as I see it is the law abusing it for other purposes other then terrorism,it ill slip into the drug scene saying drugs are a terrorist attack on the u.s.

Some do believe that the importation of illicit drugs are a form of terrorism. As the intent is to weaken our society. [I have yet to see a strung out doper as being a piller of the community]
As far as that being integrated into terrorism law, doubtful, but then again possible.
What sets terrorism apart from other crimes such as "hate crimes","drive-bys" & "mass murder", is the element "political objective" in the legal definition of a terrorist act.
Hell, the government has their nose sooo far up our asses as it is, how could it possibly get any worse?

[ShadowWolf]

Originally posted by Rivergirl

Some do believe that the importation of illicit drugs are a form of terrorism. As the intent is to weaken our society. [I have yet to see a strung out doper as being a piller of the community]
As far as that being integrated into terrorism law, doubtful, but then again possible.
What sets terrorism apart from other crimes such as "hate crimes","drive-bys" & "mass murder", is the element "political objective" in the legal definition of a terrorist act.
Hell, the government has their nose sooo far up our asses as it is, how could it possibly get any worse?

you might be amazed at how many "pillars of the community" use illicit drugs... they may not be strung out, but they're using... in fact, i happen to know quite a few of the hypocrites...

the legislation just passed is about as stupid as having laws for "hate crimes"... wtf... if you murder someone, that's a hate crime... doesn't make a damn bit of difference whether the crime against the victim was motivated by racial prejudice/intolerance, sexual prejudice/intolerance, whatever....

murder is murder...

unfortuantely, you are probably right about the "long nose" of the government...

[ShadowWolf]

Originally posted by fuzzybear4u
I said that to

hmmmmmmm...

so you did...

i guess the pressure must have gotten to me...

[fuzzybear4u]

I'm more concerned withis carnovore bug the FBI is tryin to get isp's to implant so they can read your emails usually before they get to you

[ShadowWolf]

i agree with you about carnivore... it's just another thing that the government will abuse...

give the government an inch, they'll steal a mile...

and i also thought it was a lot of propaganda bullshit to name that new law shoved down everyone's throats the "patriot act"...

what an outrageous insult to true patriots...

i think i'm gonna go and get baked...

Originally posted by fuzzybear4u
I'm more concerned withis carnovore bug the FBI is tryin to get isp's to implant so they can read your emails usually before they get to you

Check out the "Serious Side Forum". I posted the letter from my congressman regarding my concern over the FBI's potential abuse of Carnivore.
In regards to the other posts concerned about the drug issue. This is involves mass importation by foreign countries, not the local street junkie or pusher. :->

[DeltaForceRocks]

<b>*Makes a note to cancel ACLU membership & subscribe to CNN newsabreaks*

[fuzzybear4u]

Bush is going to far..Even the part where he is not allowing his daddys papers and nixons and most likely his papers to be seen

[DigitBoy]

and you wonder why the Enron people went shred-happy? With code words for different financial agendas? it stinks of GW and his lackeys- he didn't want it to go Whitewater, not with an 85-90% approval rating. Enron gave a bunch of money to GW's campaign. And I bet you the CEO walks. Savings and loan scandal ring a bell? The Bush family motto: Speak simply and carry a large broom.


terrorism cannot be wiped out in a few years- it's an idea. It takes a long time, lifetimes, to kill an idea. How long did it take to prove the earth round, a heliocentric universe? acteria, not "spirits" making people ill? We gave those a-holes the means because we so value our freedom we want everyone else too as well.It's the scorpion and the alligator, it's human nature. We suck as a harmonius species.

[sheanight]

gotta point there DigitBoy

[DigitBoy]

take a hike kathaksung- your poor verbiage and conspiracy theories aren't welcome on this board-or any other BB board. go haunt/spoof/lie/troll someplace else-Or I will report you to the moderators and administrators in a heartbeat!